powers: is it OP?

[Jat_1668]

That's right, those characters and their specs can not beat a powers jedi.

[chompbacca]

I spent hours testing a master powers jedi against a tkm/doc.

With food,psg that tkm came really close to beating me every time. My force pool was drained.

I stand by my analysis of force powers.
There are ways to counter force powers and in certain that if everyone here wanted to, they could.

Example; stacker bh with a ranged combat medic. Top of the line psg and food. That powers jedi is going to have a bad day.

Powers need buffs in certain areas not nerfs.

you just stated that your doc tkm could nearly beat it but now your changing your mind, i could probably take a master powers on chomp but the one reason ive not been able to is because of the mindblast. Also i dont think it will matter whatever profesion at this point when its 3 shotting people with psg and food so that mindblast is atm the problem, as thats the only attack ive seens people not stand up against

[JaKrispy]

Now I will agree that nonjedi need some type of defense from the mindblast attack. I dont think the intensity of the attack should be changed tho but allowing nonjedi to have some kind of defense from mindblast does make sense to me. But in no way do I agree that the damage or force cost should be nerfed.

[Awesome]

I've learned some new stuff I didn't know about powers here at SR. I've been told all force attacks were changed to LS damage. If this is true it makes forceFeedback and force defense useless in pvp. Also if an enhancer build should run up against a powers build he should be able to hit forceArmor2, forceShield2, forceAbsorb2, and forceFeedback2 and stand his own for a little while till his force level tells him to run and recharge. If force attacks are LS damage that explains also why my defender build doesn't block 75% of it as I have +100 force defense. Would like to hear from Tiny or Tyclo on this to see if what I've been told is correct. I the meantime I will test forceFeedback to see if any results come from using it, my hypothesis is that it will have no effect.

[TheTinyPebble]

I've learned some new stuff I didn't know about powers here at SR. I've been told all force attacks were changed to LS damage. If this is true it makes forceFeedback and force defense useless in pvp. Also if an enhancer build should run up against a powers build he should be able to hit forceArmor2, forceShield2, forceAbsorb2, and forceFeedback2 and stand his own for a little while till his force level tells him to run and recharge. If force attacks are LS damage that explains also why my defender build doesn't block 75% of it as I have +100 force defense. Would like to hear from Tiny or Tyclo on this to see if what I've been told is correct. I the meantime I will test forceFeedback to see if any results come from using it, my hypothesis is that it will have no effect.

It was changed to lightsaber damage, but that doesn't have anything to do with it. This part of the code registers whether or not it's a force attack, damage type is irrelevant here.

It doesn't work because that's a somewhat recent emu change, and we are intentionally behind those to reduce conflicts and crashes.

[Awesome]

ok just tested forceFeedback2 against lightning attack, it seems that forceFeedback is mirroring the damage back to the dealer but its not mitigated it to the receiver. Should reduce the damage significantly to the receiver but cast it back to the dealer. ill keep testing and update the findings.

[TheTinyPebble]

ok just tested forceFeedback2 against lightning attack, it seems that forceFeedback is mirroring the damage back to the dealer but its not mitigated it to the receiver. Should reduce the damage significantly to the receiver but cast it back to the dealer. ill keep testing and update the findings.

I think that's a misconception. Feedback is only for returning damage, same as force absorb is to get a portion of the force cost of the attack. Force shield does the damage reduction for enhancers.

[Awesome]

ahh I see, I've always had that wrong in my mind. played master enhancer once very briefly, almost always went defender. I stand corrected, working as intended.

[Jat_1668]

I spent hours testing a master powers jedi against a tkm/doc.

With food,psg that tkm came really close to beating me every time. My force pool was drained.

I stand by my analysis of force powers.
There are ways to counter force powers and in certain that if everyone here wanted to, they could.

Example; stacker bh with a ranged combat medic. Top of the line psg and food. That powers jedi is going to have a bad day.

Powers need buffs in certain areas not nerfs.

you just stated that your doc tkm could nearly beat it but now your changing your mind, i could probably take a master powers on chomp but the one reason ive not been able to is because of the mindblast. Also i dont think it will matter whatever profesion at this point when its 3 shotting people with psg and food so that mindblast is atm the problem, as thats the only attack ive seens people not stand up against

That's right a tkm/mdoc almost beat me. Almost. But she didnt. Everything is fine when you're beating up on newbie jedi with your disease weapons but when the tables are turned.....

[Awesome]

let Tiny bring out his BH and try and beat a powers jedi, that should certainly tell the tale, I was unable to beat him on my build and his BH build is as strong as can be made. I watched the epic 2hour20min battle between Avari and Tiny also. If he gets nuked we know there's an issue.