Jedi Force Powers and other Jedi related things
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:15 am
I just mastered powers the other day and have had some opportunity to test my PvE and PVP. My wife was gracious enough to volunteer. She hails from Bloodfin and was a member of FOAD for the longest time. On Bloodfin she actively participated in all manner of PvP and was quite good. Currently her main character is a TKM/MDoc. She is taped up with +25 to acc, damage, defensive acuity and melee defense. She has a 47%LS resist PSG.
Osiris is currently a MDef, MFP, 4xxx enhance, xx4x LS. Taped up with +25 force lightning acc/mind blast/knockdown/force power regen/melee defense/double bladed ls acc/double bladed LS speed. Using a gen 2 LS with a FC of 8 or a gen 1 LS with a FC of 3.
Leveling.
Leveling strategy does not change. Make sure you have all the novice boxes then train DBLS as fast as you can. I had an advantage in that I had mastered defender. I could fight higher level creatures and survive. You will not be able to level using Force Powers.
The powers themselves.
Force lightning is neat. When you are leveling from scratch, you will do a lot more damage with FL1 than you will with your LS. The force cost and cool down are very high. If I timed FL correctly, there is a 2 second attack timer on it and you dont really want it lower. You will, even at full template, run out of force.
Force lightning 2 is Ok. It is just like FL1 but does more damage.
The FL cones are ok in that they work too.
In PvE, you can kill creatures using FL but you will have a lot of downtime between lairs. The force cost VS damage when compared to a LS is not comparable. The LS, in every way, is better than force lightning. In PvP, it did amazing damage when the opponent had no PSG and bleh damage when up against a PSG. I would presume the same results against a MDef.
Mindblast1 and 2 are pretty good. They are basically like FL but they attack the mind. In PvP, these abilities are devistating. Oddly, PSGs defend against this attack. You will not use this attack in PvE. These attack are suppose to add states, but in my testing they did not.
Force Intimidate
Area effect Intimidate is pretty nice. Animation in FI2 is pretty good.
Force Weaken
Kind of a nice attack. It lowers your opponent's stats by 600 over 30 seconds then the stats return to normal the last 30 seconds. In PvP, this ability matters not so much in PvE.
Force Throw.
Sucks in any and all situations.
It is suppose to be your primary damage output in the force line. The damage is far to low attack timer and force cost are far too high to make it meaningful at all. And besides, you dont take FP to throw rocks.
Force knockdown
It is a ranged knockdown that does no damage but takes more than a little force. Why is this power so weak when compared to lightsaber throw? This power does suffer from the same timer. You cant keep applying it which if it didnt do damage would be its primary use.
Force choke
Bread and butter here. Darth Vader, right? It is a DOT that last for 6 seconds. It's ok.
Any of the other powers just arent worth mentioning or are too specialized to be worth mentioning.
Overall the damage output in PvE is pretty weak. I would not recommend Force Powers to anyone who wanted to PvE.
In PvP however, FP does pretty good. But force powers is nowhere near as good as LS.
Force powers does not have the raw damage output that would make it better DPS than a MLS. Light saber offers far more in the way of being able to target body/legs/mind and dps sustainability. Along with LS toughness and saber block you would be a fool not to master LS as your primary damage output.
For this to change Force powers either needs a major damage output increase or similar powers as LS added to make them comparable.
At this time, I cant recommend Force Powers. Its fun to fiddle with, but not for the long term. I will be returning to my old spec as soon as possible.
Osiris is currently a MDef, MFP, 4xxx enhance, xx4x LS. Taped up with +25 force lightning acc/mind blast/knockdown/force power regen/melee defense/double bladed ls acc/double bladed LS speed. Using a gen 2 LS with a FC of 8 or a gen 1 LS with a FC of 3.
Leveling.
Leveling strategy does not change. Make sure you have all the novice boxes then train DBLS as fast as you can. I had an advantage in that I had mastered defender. I could fight higher level creatures and survive. You will not be able to level using Force Powers.
The powers themselves.
Force lightning is neat. When you are leveling from scratch, you will do a lot more damage with FL1 than you will with your LS. The force cost and cool down are very high. If I timed FL correctly, there is a 2 second attack timer on it and you dont really want it lower. You will, even at full template, run out of force.
Force lightning 2 is Ok. It is just like FL1 but does more damage.
The FL cones are ok in that they work too.
In PvE, you can kill creatures using FL but you will have a lot of downtime between lairs. The force cost VS damage when compared to a LS is not comparable. The LS, in every way, is better than force lightning. In PvP, it did amazing damage when the opponent had no PSG and bleh damage when up against a PSG. I would presume the same results against a MDef.
Mindblast1 and 2 are pretty good. They are basically like FL but they attack the mind. In PvP, these abilities are devistating. Oddly, PSGs defend against this attack. You will not use this attack in PvE. These attack are suppose to add states, but in my testing they did not.
Force Intimidate
Area effect Intimidate is pretty nice. Animation in FI2 is pretty good.
Force Weaken
Kind of a nice attack. It lowers your opponent's stats by 600 over 30 seconds then the stats return to normal the last 30 seconds. In PvP, this ability matters not so much in PvE.
Force Throw.
Sucks in any and all situations.
It is suppose to be your primary damage output in the force line. The damage is far to low attack timer and force cost are far too high to make it meaningful at all. And besides, you dont take FP to throw rocks.
Force knockdown
It is a ranged knockdown that does no damage but takes more than a little force. Why is this power so weak when compared to lightsaber throw? This power does suffer from the same timer. You cant keep applying it which if it didnt do damage would be its primary use.
Force choke
Bread and butter here. Darth Vader, right? It is a DOT that last for 6 seconds. It's ok.
Any of the other powers just arent worth mentioning or are too specialized to be worth mentioning.
Overall the damage output in PvE is pretty weak. I would not recommend Force Powers to anyone who wanted to PvE.
In PvP however, FP does pretty good. But force powers is nowhere near as good as LS.
Force powers does not have the raw damage output that would make it better DPS than a MLS. Light saber offers far more in the way of being able to target body/legs/mind and dps sustainability. Along with LS toughness and saber block you would be a fool not to master LS as your primary damage output.
For this to change Force powers either needs a major damage output increase or similar powers as LS added to make them comparable.
At this time, I cant recommend Force Powers. Its fun to fiddle with, but not for the long term. I will be returning to my old spec as soon as possible.