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powers: is it OP?

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Buzzo
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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Buzzo » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:06 pm

the fact that you guys are defending it by saying how easy it is to kill multiple bh's is exactly what i am saying. It is in a really OP place right now, I really think that it should be lessened a bit. I have it, i use it, made my build to include it since it is so amazingly OP. I just think its overboard right now...you guys seriously dont? I took it specifically because it is OP as hel....

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by JaKrispy » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:11 pm

Buzzo wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:06 pm
the fact that you guys are defending it by saying how easy it is to kill multiple bh's is exactly what i am saying. It is in a really OP place right now, I really think that it should be lessened a bit. I have it, i use it, made my build to include it since it is so amazingly OP. I just think its overboard right now...you guys seriously dont? I took it specifically because it is OP as hel....
Dude its like a ranged BH saying its OP that Jedi can kill them in an instant and block every shot. Every class will have its positives and negatives. Someone who decides to go powers tree will be able to win against most BH, except maybe ranged. However, they will lose against almost all other jedi. Just because melee BH cant chase a powers jedi to catch up to him and he can hit you in 4 to 5 hits seems completely fine. Jedi need some way to defend against more than one BH. This is that only way. Otherwise we will run like all the BHs complain about everyday.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Buzzo » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:16 pm

i agree with you on that krispy, i am saying this as a player using it, are you seriously gonna tell me that you think it isnt way too high of damage right now? no full template combat class should be a 3 hit kill hahah, it is way too high damage man, for you to deny it is completely ridiculous. i play it and i see how crazy OP it is... it should be about balance, and it is very unbalanced for so few points to do so much damage

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by JaKrispy » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:20 pm

Buzzo wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:16 pm
i agree with you on that krispy, i am saying this as a player using it, are you seriously gonna tell me that you think it isnt way too high of damage right now? no full template combat class should be a 3 hit kill hahah, it is way too high damage man, for you to deny it is completely ridiculous. i play it and i see how crazy OP it is... it should be about balance, and it is very unbalanced for so few points to do so much damage
yeah but it also uses an insane amount of force per attack, so if they were to reduce damage they better reduce the amount of force being used. Otherwise its a completely usesless tree. I can easily kill a force powers jedi with my jedi. I have done it many times.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Buzzo » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:50 pm

ya ofc krispy man, and i agree with you on every aspect except the mind blast, which is what i use :D waaay OP since they made it target only mind. I think the rest of powers (lightning, choke ect) is in a great place right now, i just think targetted mind hits need to drop a bit eh? now idc on my jedi either, i heal my own mind and blast em right back :D and vs jedi isnt an issue for any of it ( i also have that force sheild 2, really helps!). i just think a specific ability in a specific interaction needs a bit of a look and possible tweak down. It isnt a high point cost or sacrifice to have MB2 and its really super high damage, and force cost isnt a balancing issue when you can drop a bh in seconds. get real man.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Veruca » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:52 pm

The irony of the original post makes me giggle. OP cause it takes down the best BH on the server... is this the same 600 mindfire dot bh? I don't know, powers may be the jedi equivalent to the dot weapon, only coming with the pve sacrifice. Meanwhile, ranged bh is off in the corner, curled up in the fetal position.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Awesome » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:55 pm

its not OP, I beat Spartacus and Iceman on my jedi, Am I OP? Spatacus is a powers x4xx build and we all know Iceman makes jedi look for shelter when he comes around. You just have to learn how to beat them, what makes them strong in one area makes they especially weak in an other. Seek the weakness. If any nerfs are in order its with melee stackers, OMG did I really just say that out loud lol

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Tyclo » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:14 pm

Jat_1668 wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:44 pm

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What was your spec?
What was the BH spec?
Did either of you use food?
What was the name of the BH?
Did the BH use a PSG? If so what were the stats?
How much damage did you hit the BH for?
How much damage were you taking from the BH before you defeated them?
How many times did you fight? Did the BH try to counter MIND BLAST during those attempts?
Just going to quote this. Everyone's having a panic attack and all I want to see is data. Opinions and statements are not data.

Screenshots work best. Dev (aka Test) should be open to log in and test, albeit the character data might be a few months old. Even if you don't test, next time you have an encounter, screenshot the combat log.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by TheTinyPebble » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:46 pm

Veruca wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Meanwhile, ranged bh is off in the corner, curled up in the fetal position.
Well everyone seems to dismiss any of the changes we've made here, I am fairly certain I'd put up a decent fight against a powers Jedi if Tiny still had his ranged build. 1 melee + 1 ranged BH is far more terrifying than 2 melee BHs as well.

Well I suppose if you have to use any sort of strategy that doesn't involve smashing the same button over and over again for 30 minutes then it's a horrible build.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Mumbo » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:20 am

powers definitely has some oomph. not sure 2 powers can be defended against. I guess if you get AI up in time it can be but for anyone else you wont be able to out heal the damage.
Lightning bolts hitting for 4k is pretty badass...is lightning force, ls or elec dmg ?

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