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powers: is it OP?

JaKrispy
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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by JaKrispy » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:00 am

mumbo wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:20 am
powers definitely has some oomph. not sure 2 powers can be defended against. I guess if you get AI up in time it can be but for anyone else you wont be able to out heal the damage.
Lightning bolts hitting for 4k is pretty badass...is lightning force, ls or elec dmg ?
Again I have defeated Spartacus many times who loves Force Powers. It is not OP people. Ranged BH have trouble against jedis with sabers. Melee BH have trouble with jedi with force powers...its not OP. Its balanced

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by JaKrispy » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:01 am

TheTinyPebble wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:46 pm
Veruca wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Meanwhile, ranged bh is off in the corner, curled up in the fetal position.
Well everyone seems to dismiss any of the changes we've made here, I am fairly certain I'd put up a decent fight against a powers Jedi if Tiny still had his ranged build. 1 melee + 1 ranged BH is far more terrifying than 2 melee BHs as well.

Well I suppose if you have to use any sort of strategy that doesn't involve smashing the same button over and over again for 30 minutes then it's a horrible build.
Yeah exactly a ranged BH would probably do fine against a powers jedi. The people complaining just dont know how to defeat the powers jedi yet. It can be done by many many classes.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Tenel » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:04 am

:lol: Im not sure what to say, while I do like powers as it stands, I do feel that mind blast should do what the description says, damage to a random pool instead of just to the mind. I also feel that powers as a mastery is a gimp class/glass cannon because its like driving a 20 ton truck with 2 miles per gallon when it comes to force usage. sure it will smash the vehicle in front of it if its standing still, but if your onslaught doesn't succeed soon after combat initiates you are out of force and will slump over dead like any other class. Most people will not go force powers master bec its crap for pve, for pvbh its hard hitting after you get through their psgs and synth. That said, the main bh's on the server have an upper hand to jedi without any powers, it may be doable to kill 2 bh's but not likely, so then jedi say melee bh's are overpowerd and so on and so forth.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Buzzo » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:51 am

Hey you guys all feel like its in a good place? I feel like its a bit too powerful. its ok to disagree, I am gonna use the hell out of mind blast in pvp until it gets dropped in damage or forever if never gets the nerf bat. Because it is pretty damn over powered. to me the force cost feels like nothing compared to what i can do in damage. and compared to a LS powers is crazy damage. Its neat to talk about it though isnt it? even if we disagree, i think we should just help the devs and collect some data beating the hell out of each other with it. let them decide.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by JaKrispy » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:17 am

Buzzo wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:51 am
Hey you guys all feel like its in a good place? I feel like its a bit too powerful. its ok to disagree, I am gonna use the hell out of mind blast in pvp until it gets dropped in damage or forever if never gets the nerf bat. Because it is pretty damn over powered. to me the force cost feels like nothing compared to what i can do in damage. and compared to a LS powers is crazy damage. Its neat to talk about it though isnt it? even if we disagree, i think we should just help the devs and collect some data beating the hell out of each other with it. let them decide.
Dude use it like a mad man. And kill a few powers jedi without using powers and you will see how easy they are to kill still. Like Tiny said, learn the strategy on how to kill a powers jedi, its not hard. I practiced against Spartacus over and over. Powers is easy kill if you learn the proper strategy.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Veruca » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:32 am

TheTinyPebble wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:46 pm
Veruca wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Meanwhile, ranged bh is off in the corner, curled up in the fetal position.
Well everyone seems to dismiss any of the changes we've made here, I am fairly certain I'd put up a decent fight against a powers Jedi if Tiny still had his ranged build. 1 melee + 1 ranged BH is far more terrifying than 2 melee BHs as well.

Well I suppose if you have to use any sort of strategy that doesn't involve smashing the same button over and over again for 30 minutes then it's a horrible build.
That's fair, powers also had a bad reputation before Spartacus started zappin people.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Awesome » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:21 pm

one thing I noticed is it seems mindBlast2 seems to hit a defender 100% the time, I think with defenders getting 100 force defense this should be more like 25% chance to hit. mindBlast is a force attack and would like to know if this is meant to hit 100% or does it get mitigated by force defense. I think the damage numbers are correct. From my memory pwers jedi always had hard time with defenders as the force defense was so high. Maybe the accuracy got tweaked here, not sure

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Jat_1668 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:23 pm

I spent hours testing a master powers jedi against a tkm/doc.

With food,psg that tkm came really close to beating me every time. My force pool was drained.

I stand by my analysis of force powers.
There are ways to counter force powers and in certain that if everyone here wanted to, they could.

Example; stacker bh with a ranged combat medic. Top of the line psg and food. That powers jedi is going to have a bad day.

Powers need buffs in certain areas not nerfs.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by Jat_1668 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:27 pm

Awesome wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:21 pm
one thing I noticed is it seems mindBlast2 seems to hit a defender 100% the time, I think with defenders getting 100 force defense this should be more like 25% chance to hit. mindBlast is a force attack and would like to know if this is meant to hit 100% or does it get mitigated by force defense. I think the damage numbers are correct. From my memory pwers jedi always had hard time with defenders as the force defense was so high. Maybe the accuracy got tweaked here, not sure
Force defense lowers the chance of being hit and also reduces damage. I'll run some numbers later and see how it should look verses reality. No ability should hit 100% of the time.

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Re: powers: is it OP?

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Post by chompbacca » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:40 pm

mindblast 2 seems to be where the main problem is in my opinion as the stregth it hits and that it hits the one pool that there is no protection against for a non jedi as ive tested it alot of time on both harkey and chomp and both have been destroyed with food and psg's thers no way to outlast it unless you bring more people to each fight. Only time i ahve won aginst someonbe using mindblast 2 was when i had a jedi backing me up on chomp other than that i have had 0 chance in winning

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